University would be one that covers, “history and intent,” “sub- mitting and approval processes” and finally, “how to read and understand a TCNA subsection.” Use B 415 as the class example. A second course on covering the same topics on ANSI (I would pick A118.1) would be equally beneficial. As an added bonus people would learn about tra- ditional shower assemblies and dryset cement mortar. Dave Gobis I have never thought or considered it a spe- cialized format. I used to do in-depth explanations at CTEF and was constantly requested to lighten it up. For it to make the greatest amount of sense requires a history lesson along with the explanation. There is a reason for all of it. Dan Marvin, MAPEI – When we write standards, we shoot for clar- ity but often end up with “Standards Speak” because they are a group effort. If you’ve ever tried to write a book by sit- ting down to write it while 75 people stand over your shoulder and loudly criticize every word, you have a feel for what stan- dards development is like. With that said, the tile industry has an awesome leg up on other indus- tries because of the dedication of people like Dave Gobis and Steve Rausch over the years who have taken standards development to heart and put together some great resources. Whenever MAPEI does a training, we start with “What does ANSI say?” or “What does the Handbook say?” and work from there. Dave Gobis To that I add that ANSI has specific language that has to be used from both a format and legal perspective. I remem- ber years ago spending hours on discussion of using the word should or shall. The document is always going to sound stiff. Christopher Walker, David Allen Company, Northeast Region, Bristow, Va. – We are starting down the path to update the language in ANSI. I think both Dave G & Dan M would agree, even with all the experience and well-intended input, sometimes the most well- meaning and thoroughly-vetted changes have widespread unin- tended consequences. Usually not for the better. “Standards Speak” kicks in when you are attempting to be specific, while not handing a noose to the next lawyer with marginal case, or language/requirements that no installation can meet in practical application. Not just in the lab. That is a tough road to navigate. Dan Marvin For those of you HOT TOPICS ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 70 TileLetter | October 2018